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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie, I moved a bulk of the press release into a complete post so it would get the coverage it deserves rather than being stuck at the bottom of a comment list - hope this is okay?

:-)

Over 18.1 million :-O that makes at least 1,200 elderly victims by quick calculation...

Hope you are all having a little celebration?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie, I moved a bulk of the press release into a complete post so it would get the coverage it deserves rather than being stuck at the bottom of a comment list &#8211; hope this is okay?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.elliottrodgers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Over 18.1 million :-O that makes at least 1,200 elderly victims by quick calculation&#8230;</p>
<p>Hope you are all having a little celebration?</p>
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		<title>By: Homeguard Security</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeguard Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insolvency Service   (National) 
Two Cheshire based companies which sold monitored burglar and fire alarms to members of the public, making millions in the process, were today wound up in the Manchester District Registry following an investigation by Company Investigations of The Insolvency Service.
The investigation established two connected companies &#039;SAS Fire and Security Systems Limited&#039; (&quot;SAS Fire&quot;) and &#039;Crime Research UK Limited&#039; (&quot;Crime Research&quot;), worked in a coordinated manner targeting elderly customers with false promotional offers and high pressure sales tactics. In a 31-month period to September 2010, SAS Fire netted sales of over £18.1 million. 

Full story on this post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2011/sas-fire-and-security-scammers-shut-down/&quot; title=&quot;SAS Fire and Security Ltd Scammers Shut Down&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SAS Fire and Security Ltd Scammers Shut Down&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insolvency Service   (National)<br />
Two Cheshire based companies which sold monitored burglar and fire alarms to members of the public, making millions in the process, were today wound up in the Manchester District Registry following an investigation by Company Investigations of The Insolvency Service.<br />
The investigation established two connected companies &#8216;SAS Fire and Security Systems Limited&#8217; (&#8220;SAS Fire&#8221;) and &#8216;Crime Research UK Limited&#8217; (&#8220;Crime Research&#8221;), worked in a coordinated manner targeting elderly customers with false promotional offers and high pressure sales tactics. In a 31-month period to September 2010, SAS Fire netted sales of over £18.1 million. </p>
<p>Full story on this post <a href="http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2011/sas-fire-and-security-scammers-shut-down/" title="SAS Fire and Security Ltd Scammers Shut Down" rel="nofollow">SAS Fire and Security Ltd Scammers Shut Down</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Thanks for sharing your story, sounds to me like you had a lucky escape from the scammers. 

Elliott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your story, sounds to me like you had a lucky escape from the scammers. </p>
<p>Elliott</p>
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		<title>By: John Hammond</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>John Hammond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was cold called today and I agreed to have a survey undertaken which I was advised would take 45minutes.  They originally gave me a time of 6.30pm but this was not convenient  as we have friend coming at 7.00pm so a time of 5.30 was agreed. The rep turned up at 6.05 which was too late as this rep says his survey will take about an hour and a half. So, we suggested re booking for later in the week.  The rep phoned his boss - Lee - to try and arrange; he wanted to speak with me and insisted that his rep was early for the original 6.30 appointment which he claimed I had agreed to. He then lost his rag and accused me of wasting their time.  This is a manager who needs to be trained in customer care and manners; I was actually interested and wanted to hear what they have to offer but not now, nor ever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was cold called today and I agreed to have a survey undertaken which I was advised would take 45minutes.  They originally gave me a time of 6.30pm but this was not convenient  as we have friend coming at 7.00pm so a time of 5.30 was agreed. The rep turned up at 6.05 which was too late as this rep says his survey will take about an hour and a half. So, we suggested re booking for later in the week.  The rep phoned his boss &#8211; Lee &#8211; to try and arrange; he wanted to speak with me and insisted that his rep was early for the original 6.30 appointment which he claimed I had agreed to. He then lost his rag and accused me of wasting their time.  This is a manager who needs to be trained in customer care and manners; I was actually interested and wanted to hear what they have to offer but not now, nor ever</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Thanks for a very quick reply to my latest email concerning the scammers. Glad you appreciate my comments. I have an intense and deep dislike of those who target the elderly and vulnerable there is something which is just so distasteful especially when it&#039;s selling things like security and fire safety. Let&#039;s hope that people will be cautious and the scammers wont benefit from their evil behaviour.

As I&#039;ve noted in the previous post about SAS Fire and Security &quot;I do however get p****d off with scam artists who target the elderly and vunerable&quot;. I have plenty of friends who are elderly and a couple of adults with learning difficulties. Two friends both only just managed to avoid their elderly parents falling for this scam last year. It took myself and three large male friends appearing in the lounge to persuade two of the scammers that actually they did want to leave as the (very sweet) elderly couple had been asking them politely too for the past hour. My friends and I weren&#039;t so polite.    

If I can be of any further help then please let me know.

Elliott

Note: The comment I am replying to has come from a senior member of the managment team at Homeguard Security Services Ltd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Thanks for a very quick reply to my latest email concerning the scammers. Glad you appreciate my comments. I have an intense and deep dislike of those who target the elderly and vulnerable there is something which is just so distasteful especially when it&#8217;s selling things like security and fire safety. Let&#8217;s hope that people will be cautious and the scammers wont benefit from their evil behaviour.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve noted in the previous post about SAS Fire and Security &#8220;I do however get p****d off with scam artists who target the elderly and vunerable&#8221;. I have plenty of friends who are elderly and a couple of adults with learning difficulties. Two friends both only just managed to avoid their elderly parents falling for this scam last year. It took myself and three large male friends appearing in the lounge to persuade two of the scammers that actually they did want to leave as the (very sweet) elderly couple had been asking them politely too for the past hour. My friends and I weren&#8217;t so polite.    </p>
<p>If I can be of any further help then please let me know.</p>
<p>Elliott</p>
<p>Note: The comment I am replying to has come from a senior member of the managment team at Homeguard Security Services Ltd.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeguard Security Systems Ltd</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1482</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeguard Security Systems Ltd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We appreciate your comments. Thank you. Yes you are more than welcome to post this for us. 

During recent weeks we at Homeguard security systems limited have received many phone calls from different police stations, we have had Derbyshire , merseyside, Wetherby, Colton , and hull,all asking questions and investigating complaints about  the Homeguard uk fire and security company. 

We hope this post helps people out there just to be careful who they deal with and be assured  Homeguard security systems limited who are based in gildersome Leeds,  are nothing to do with Homeguard uk fire and security. 

Thank you 
Regards 
Homeguard security systems limited</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We appreciate your comments. Thank you. Yes you are more than welcome to post this for us. </p>
<p>During recent weeks we at Homeguard security systems limited have received many phone calls from different police stations, we have had Derbyshire , merseyside, Wetherby, Colton , and hull,all asking questions and investigating complaints about  the Homeguard uk fire and security company. </p>
<p>We hope this post helps people out there just to be careful who they deal with and be assured  Homeguard security systems limited who are based in gildersome Leeds,  are nothing to do with Homeguard uk fire and security. </p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Regards<br />
Homeguard security systems limited</p>
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		<title>By: More on SAS Fire and Security Doorstep Scam &#124; Elliott Rodgers</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1481</link>
		<dc:creator>More on SAS Fire and Security Doorstep Scam &#124; Elliott Rodgers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] short post about SAS Fire and Security Doorstop Scam and the subsequent comments added concerning the same scam and/or scammers had changed their name [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] short post about SAS Fire and Security Doorstop Scam and the subsequent comments added concerning the same scam and/or scammers had changed their name [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1400</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Liz,

Glad you weren&#039;t fooled by them... was that in their new &quot;Homeguard UK Fire and Security&quot; version or the old version SAS Fire and Security?

Don&#039;t forget to come and let us know how you get on with Trading Standards.

Elliott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz,</p>
<p>Glad you weren&#8217;t fooled by them&#8230; was that in their new &#8220;Homeguard UK Fire and Security&#8221; version or the old version SAS Fire and Security?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget to come and let us know how you get on with Trading Standards.</p>
<p>Elliott</p>
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		<title>By: liz govan</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1399</link>
		<dc:creator>liz govan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. above security scam.

I myself have recieved 2 phone calls in the last 2 days from this company.

I live in the bolton area of lancashire. I will be phoning Tradings Standards asap.

Just thought you would want to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. above security scam.</p>
<p>I myself have recieved 2 phone calls in the last 2 days from this company.</p>
<p>I live in the bolton area of lancashire. I will be phoning Tradings Standards asap.</p>
<p>Just thought you would want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeguard Security Systems Ltd</title>
		<link>http://www.elliottrodgers.com/index.php/2010/sas-fire-and-security-doorstop-scam/comment-page-1/#comment-1388</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeguard Security Systems Ltd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We believe are now trading as Homeguard UK Fire and Security. Cold calling with offers for alarms for £1.00! Homeguard UK Fire and security was we believe to be opperating previously as SAS fire and security ltd. THEY ARE TARGETING THE ELDERLY.......

These companies have nothing to do with Homeguard Security Systems Ltd  (who are based in Gldersome Leeds).

If you do get a call from from Homeguard UK Fire and Security or if you have any information, we suggest you contact Trading Standards on 08454 040506.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We believe are now trading as Homeguard UK Fire and Security. Cold calling with offers for alarms for £1.00! Homeguard UK Fire and security was we believe to be opperating previously as SAS fire and security ltd. THEY ARE TARGETING THE ELDERLY&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>These companies have nothing to do with Homeguard Security Systems Ltd  (who are based in Gldersome Leeds).</p>
<p>If you do get a call from from Homeguard UK Fire and Security or if you have any information, we suggest you contact Trading Standards on 08454 040506.</p>
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